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		<title>By: Nayan Ramachandran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nayan Ramachandran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ferricide,

As I reiterated, much of this article really is based on ifs. If this is true, If it happened in this sequence, etc etc.

There is an element of knee jerk in this editorial, I won't lie. I just think it had to be said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ferricide,</p>
<p>As I reiterated, much of this article really is based on ifs. If this is true, If it happened in this sequence, etc etc.</p>
<p>There is an element of knee jerk in this editorial, I won&#8217;t lie. I just think it had to be said.</p>
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		<title>By: ferricide</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>based on conversations i've been having, i find the assumptions that are flying around are this weird blend that you find on the internet -- a weird mix of cynicsm and naivete. they assume the worst but they also assume the most simple explanation. neither is ever true.

it does sound from the emerging details that i've heard that management at gamespot is guilty of several things: letting marketing get too much power over editorial, intentionally or unintentionally making this appear to the edit staff the same as it does from the outside: a climate of fear is engendered, in which editors are afraid to speak out. that's fucked up and unacceptable.

at the same time, there is absolutely no way that gerstmann is a martyr to one review of one game. i also doubt that eidos is to blame. it's too much part and parcel with the industry as it exists now that ads are threatened and these threats are rebuffed and the easy truce settles back down. the problem is that gamespot management responded terribly to the threats due to their lack of impartiality, i'd posit. 

basically, what i get from this based on what i've heard and what i've seen and researched is that there are major, major flaws in gamespot's current management team. i guess anybody can see that. somehow people don't seem to think that's the issue, though, getting caught up in the emotional resonance of jeff's departure over editorial integrity. which most people are in fact just assuming is true, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>based on conversations i&#8217;ve been having, i find the assumptions that are flying around are this weird blend that you find on the internet &#8212; a weird mix of cynicsm and naivete. they assume the worst but they also assume the most simple explanation. neither is ever true.</p>
<p>it does sound from the emerging details that i&#8217;ve heard that management at gamespot is guilty of several things: letting marketing get too much power over editorial, intentionally or unintentionally making this appear to the edit staff the same as it does from the outside: a climate of fear is engendered, in which editors are afraid to speak out. that&#8217;s fucked up and unacceptable.</p>
<p>at the same time, there is absolutely no way that gerstmann is a martyr to one review of one game. i also doubt that eidos is to blame. it&#8217;s too much part and parcel with the industry as it exists now that ads are threatened and these threats are rebuffed and the easy truce settles back down. the problem is that gamespot management responded terribly to the threats due to their lack of impartiality, i&#8217;d posit. </p>
<p>basically, what i get from this based on what i&#8217;ve heard and what i&#8217;ve seen and researched is that there are major, major flaws in gamespot&#8217;s current management team. i guess anybody can see that. somehow people don&#8217;t seem to think that&#8217;s the issue, though, getting caught up in the emotional resonance of jeff&#8217;s departure over editorial integrity. which most people are in fact just assuming is true, really.</p>
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		<title>By: DJH</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Risrepkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Risrepkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point, it's hard to think rationally about this situation anymore.  Everywhere on the internet people are calling for blood, and a lynch mob is not the easiest group to talk sense with.  It's hard to follow the massive number of posts coming in while at work.  The enforced silence of the Gamespot staff just fuels the fire.  Sometimes silence speaks more truth than anything.

If it is true, C&#124;Net is going to lose a lot of credibility.  The electronics reviews on cnet.com are one of the sources I used to determine which HDTV to buy at the time.  Looking back, it scares me to see all those ads for Sony/Samsung/Whatever showing on their site.  Makes you wonder doesn't it?

Eidos probably behaved like any other company.  It's not hard to imagine any publisher threatening to pull money from any site for a poor review.  The only way they should be punished is if they specifically called for the termination of Jeff after his review.  Personally I haven't played an Eidos game since their PC port of FF7 last century.  I guess I've had an unofficial boycott going already.

Reading through the forums at Gamespot, I noted a lot of subscribers are canceling their account.  This is a symbolic move, but I highly doubt it will have much effect.  The income they receive from a group of subscribers is nothing compared to the huge advertising handouts they receive from publishers.  The best way would be to not visit (as you stated in the article) the C&#124;Net affiliated sites at all.  When their traffic drops, so will the advertising revenue.  AVS Forum is a good alternative to C&#124;Net electronics reviews.  The lack of GameFAQs shouldn't really matter since following a guide takes the fun out of experiencing a new game.  Nothing beats the exhilaration of solving a hard puzzle yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point, it&#8217;s hard to think rationally about this situation anymore.  Everywhere on the internet people are calling for blood, and a lynch mob is not the easiest group to talk sense with.  It&#8217;s hard to follow the massive number of posts coming in while at work.  The enforced silence of the Gamespot staff just fuels the fire.  Sometimes silence speaks more truth than anything.</p>
<p>If it is true, C|Net is going to lose a lot of credibility.  The electronics reviews on cnet.com are one of the sources I used to determine which HDTV to buy at the time.  Looking back, it scares me to see all those ads for Sony/Samsung/Whatever showing on their site.  Makes you wonder doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Eidos probably behaved like any other company.  It&#8217;s not hard to imagine any publisher threatening to pull money from any site for a poor review.  The only way they should be punished is if they specifically called for the termination of Jeff after his review.  Personally I haven&#8217;t played an Eidos game since their PC port of FF7 last century.  I guess I&#8217;ve had an unofficial boycott going already.</p>
<p>Reading through the forums at Gamespot, I noted a lot of subscribers are canceling their account.  This is a symbolic move, but I highly doubt it will have much effect.  The income they receive from a group of subscribers is nothing compared to the huge advertising handouts they receive from publishers.  The best way would be to not visit (as you stated in the article) the C|Net affiliated sites at all.  When their traffic drops, so will the advertising revenue.  AVS Forum is a good alternative to C|Net electronics reviews.  The lack of GameFAQs shouldn&#8217;t really matter since following a guide takes the fun out of experiencing a new game.  Nothing beats the exhilaration of solving a hard puzzle yourself.</p>
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